Summer Road LLC More: the full row for Summer Road LLC 78 $61.2K 0.05% 0 13F-HR Timeline The filing omitted confidential holdings, a later amendment may add them. First Horizon Advisors, Inc. More: the full row for First Horizon Advisors, Inc. 73 $58.1K <0.01% -11 13F-HR Timeline Aventura Private Wealth, LLC More: the full row for Aventura Private Wealth, LLC 73 $58.1K 0.03% 0 13F-HR Timeline DT Investment Partners, LLC More: the full row for DT Investment Partners, LLC 71 $56.5K 0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Perkins Coie Trust Co More: the full row for Perkins Coie Trust Co 70 $55.7K 0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Center for Financial Planning, Inc. More: the full row for Center for Financial Planning, Inc. 67 $53.5K 0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline GW&K Investment Management, LLC More: the full row for GW&K Investment Management, LLC 67 $53K <0.01% +9 13F-HR Timeline SUMMIT SECURITIES GROUP LLC More: the full row for SUMMIT SECURITIES GROUP LLC 66 $52.5K 0.02% new 13F-HR Timeline Anchor Investment Management, LLC More: the full row for Anchor Investment Management, LLC 65 $51.7K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Essential Partners LLC More: the full row for Essential Partners LLC 63 $50.1K 0.02% 13F-HR Timeline TWIN PEAKS WEALTH ADVISORS, LLC More: the full row for TWIN PEAKS WEALTH ADVISORS, LLC 61 $47.9K 0.02% new 13F-HR Timeline Silvant Capital Management LLC More: the full row for Silvant Capital Management LLC 60 $47.7K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Key Financial Inc More: the full row for Key Financial Inc 60 $47.7K 0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline NewSquare Capital LLC More: the full row for NewSquare Capital LLC 57 $45.3K <0.01% +34 13F-HR Timeline Rise Advisors, LLC More: the full row for Rise Advisors, LLC 57 $45K 0.02% +2 13F-HR Timeline Deseret Mutual Benefit Administrators More: the full row for Deseret Mutual Benefit Administrators 52 $41.4K 0.02% 0 13F-HR Timeline Park Square Financial Group, LLC More: the full row for Park Square Financial Group, LLC 52 $41.4K 0.03% 0 13F-HR Timeline THOMPSON INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT, INC. More: the full row for THOMPSON INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT, INC. 50 $39.8K 0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Dunhill Financial, LLC More: the full row for Dunhill Financial, LLC 47 $38K 0.01% -8 13F-HR Timeline Golden State Wealth Management, LLC More: the full row for Golden State Wealth Management, LLC 47 $37.4K <0.01% +44 13F-HR Timeline SIMPLEX TRADING, LLC More: the full row for SIMPLEX TRADING, LLC 47 $37K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Nemes Rush Group LLC More: the full row for Nemes Rush Group LLC 46 $36.9K <0.01% -18 13F-HR Timeline CBIZ Investment Advisory Services, LLC More: the full row for CBIZ Investment Advisory Services, LLC 46 $36.7K <0.01% +23 13F-HR Timeline Glen Eagle Advisors, LLC More: the full row for Glen Eagle Advisors, LLC 46 $36.5K 0.01% +11 13F-HR Timeline JDM Financial Group LLC More: the full row for JDM Financial Group LLC 45 $35.8K 0.02% 0 13F-HR Timeline Private Wealth Asset Management, LLC More: the full row for Private Wealth Asset Management, LLC 42 $33.4K <0.01% -4 13F-HR Timeline Covestor Ltd More: the full row for Covestor Ltd 40 $33K 0.02% -3 13F-HR Timeline SIERRA OCEAN, LLC More: the full row for SIERRA OCEAN, LLC 41 $32.9K 0.02% 0 13F-HR Timeline JFS WEALTH ADVISORS, LLC More: the full row for JFS WEALTH ADVISORS, LLC 41 $32.6K <0.01% -1 13F-HR Timeline SouthState Bank Corp in group SouthState Bank Corp More: the full row for SouthState Bank Corp 40 $31.8K <0.01% -18 13F-HR Timeline Group TOTH FINANCIAL ADVISORY CORP More: the full row for TOTH FINANCIAL ADVISORY CORP 40 $31.7K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline GHP Investment Advisors, Inc. More: the full row for GHP Investment Advisors, Inc. 39 $31K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Rosenberg Matthew Hamilton More: the full row for Rosenberg Matthew Hamilton 39 $31K 0.01% +21 13F-HR Timeline Binnacle Investments Inc More: the full row for Binnacle Investments Inc 39 $31K 0.02% 0 13F-HR Timeline Pacific Center for Financial Services More: the full row for Pacific Center for Financial Services 38 $30.4K 0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline ATTICUS WEALTH MANAGEMENT, LLC More: the full row for ATTICUS WEALTH MANAGEMENT, LLC 37 $29.4K 0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Strategic Wealth Partners, Ltd. More: the full row for Strategic Wealth Partners, Ltd. 37 $29.4K <0.01% 13F-HR Timeline Clal Insurance Enterprises Holdings Ltd in group Clal Insurance Enterprises Ho… More: the full row for Clal Insurance Enterprises Holdings Ltd 35 $28K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Group Pingora Partners LLC More: the full row for Pingora Partners LLC 35 $27.8K 0.02% 0 13F-HR Timeline BARTLETT & CO. WEALTH MANAGEMENT LLC More: the full row for BARTLETT & CO. WEALTH MANAGEMENT LLC 34 $27K <0.01% +1 13F-HR Timeline 2UniFi Bank More: the full row for 2UniFi Bank 34 $27K 0.02% +14 13F-HR Timeline Atlantic Union Bankshares Corp in group Atlantic Union Bankshares Corp More: the full row for Atlantic Union Bankshares Corp 33 $26.3K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Group TRUST CO OF VERMONT More: the full row for TRUST CO OF VERMONT 33 $26.3K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Westside Investment Management, Inc. More: the full row for Westside Investment Management, Inc. 32 $25.5K <0.01% +21 13F-HR Timeline Cornerstone Planning Group LLC More: the full row for Cornerstone Planning Group LLC 32 $24.9K 0.01% -10 13F-HR Timeline Bellwether Advisors, LLC More: the full row for Bellwether Advisors, LLC 31 $24.7K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline American Capital Advisory, LLC More: the full row for American Capital Advisory, LLC 31 $24.7K 0.01% +1 13F-HR Timeline CoreCap Advisors, LLC More: the full row for CoreCap Advisors, LLC 30 $23.9K <0.01% -26 13F-HR Timeline Fortitude Family Office, LLC More: the full row for Fortitude Family Office, LLC 30 $23.9K 0.01% -2 13F-HR Timeline United Community Bank in group United Community Bank More: the full row for United Community Bank 30 $23.9K 0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Group PINNEY & SCOFIELD, INC. More: the full row for PINNEY & SCOFIELD, INC. 30 $23.9K 0.02% 0 13F-HR Timeline BFSG, LLC More: the full row for BFSG, LLC 28 $22.3K <0.01% +6 13F-HR Timeline CNB Bank More: the full row for CNB Bank 28 $22.3K 0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Activest Wealth Management More: the full row for Activest Wealth Management 27 $21.3K 0.01% -4 13F-HR Timeline BROWN, LISLE/CUMMINGS, INC. More: the full row for BROWN, LISLE/CUMMINGS, INC. 26 $20.7K 0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline HOLLENCREST CAPITAL MANAGEMENT More: the full row for HOLLENCREST CAPITAL MANAGEMENT 25 $19.9K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Spurstone Advisory Services, LLC More: the full row for Spurstone Advisory Services, LLC 25 $19.9K 0.3% new 13F-HR Timeline Financial Management Professionals, Inc. More: the full row for Financial Management Professionals, Inc. 24 $19.1K <0.01% +3 13F-HR Timeline WEBSTER BANK, N. A. More: the full row for WEBSTER BANK, N. A. 23 $18.3K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Harel Insurance Investments & Financial… in group Harel Insurance Investments &… More: the full row for Harel Insurance Investments & Financial Services Ltd. 23 $18K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Group TD Capital Management LLC More: the full row for TD Capital Management LLC 22 $17.5K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline WPG Advisers, LLC More: the full row for WPG Advisers, LLC 22 $17.5K 0.01% +11 13F-HR Timeline Hemington Wealth Management More: the full row for Hemington Wealth Management 23 $17K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline PIN OAK INVESTMENT ADVISORS INC More: the full row for PIN OAK INVESTMENT ADVISORS INC 22 $17K 0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Capital Advisors, Ltd. LLC More: the full row for Capital Advisors, Ltd. LLC 21 $17K <0.01% -16 13F-HR Timeline Howard Hughes Medical Institute More: the full row for Howard Hughes Medical Institute 21 $16.7K 0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Lowe Wealth Advisors, LLC More: the full row for Lowe Wealth Advisors, LLC 21 $16.7K 0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Mechanics Financial Corp More: the full row for Mechanics Financial Corp 20 $15.9K 0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline LRI Investments, LLC More: the full row for LRI Investments, LLC 20 $15.9K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Dynamic Wealth Strategies, LLC More: the full row for Dynamic Wealth Strategies, LLC 19 $15.1K 0.01% -18 13F-HR Timeline FSA Wealth Management LLC More: the full row for FSA Wealth Management LLC 19 $15K 0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Avion Wealth More: the full row for Avion Wealth 20 $15K <0.01% +8 13F-HR/A Timeline AdvisorNet Financial, Inc More: the full row for AdvisorNet Financial, Inc 18 $14.3K <0.01% -14 13F-HR Timeline Trifecta Capital Advisors, LLC More: the full row for Trifecta Capital Advisors, LLC 17 $13.5K <0.01% +14 13F-HR Timeline Moisand Fitzgerald Tamayo, LLC More: the full row for Moisand Fitzgerald Tamayo, LLC 16 $12.7K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Whipplewood Advisors, LLC More: the full row for Whipplewood Advisors, LLC 16 $12.7K 0.01% -25 13F-HR Timeline PFS Partners, LLC More: the full row for PFS Partners, LLC 16 $12.4K 0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline ELEVATION WEALTH PARTNERS, LLC More: the full row for ELEVATION WEALTH PARTNERS, LLC 15 $11.9K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Pinnacle Bancorp, Inc. More: the full row for Pinnacle Bancorp, Inc. 15 $11.9K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Boreal Capital Management LLC More: the full row for Boreal Capital Management LLC 15 $11.9K 0.01% 13F-HR Timeline Dogwood Wealth Management LLC More: the full row for Dogwood Wealth Management LLC 15 $11.5K 0.01% +14 13F-HR Timeline First Pacific Financial More: the full row for First Pacific Financial 14 $11.4K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Princeton Global Asset Management LLC More: the full row for Princeton Global Asset Management LLC 14 $11.1K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Mowery & Schoenfeld Wealth Management, … More: the full row for Mowery & Schoenfeld Wealth Management, LLC 14 $11.1K 0.02% 0 13F-HR Timeline OGOREK ANTHONY JOSEPH /NY/ /ADV More: the full row for OGOREK ANTHONY JOSEPH /NY/ /ADV 15 $11K <0.01% +6 13F-HR Timeline ATWOOD & PALMER INC More: the full row for ATWOOD & PALMER INC 13 $10.3K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline BOK Financial Private Wealth, Inc. More: the full row for BOK Financial Private Wealth, Inc. 13 $10.3K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline MJT & Associates Financial Advisory Gro… More: the full row for MJT & Associates Financial Advisory Group, Inc. 13 $10.3K 0.01% 0 13F-HR/A Timeline North Star Investment Management Corp. More: the full row for North Star Investment Management Corp. 13 $10.3K <0.01% -3 13F-HR Timeline ROGCO, LP More: the full row for ROGCO, LP 13 $10.3K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Red Tortoise LLC More: the full row for Red Tortoise LLC 13 $10.1K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Mascoma Wealth Management LLC More: the full row for Mascoma Wealth Management LLC 12 $9.55K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline McIlrath & Eck, LLC More: the full row for McIlrath & Eck, LLC 12 $9.55K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Pflug Koory, LLC More: the full row for Pflug Koory, LLC 12 $9.55K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline High Note Wealth, LLC More: the full row for High Note Wealth, LLC 12 $9.55K <0.01% -1 13F-HR Timeline Addison Advisors LLC More: the full row for Addison Advisors LLC 12 $9.55K <0.01% -2 13F-HR Timeline Abound Wealth Management More: the full row for Abound Wealth Management 11 $8.78K <0.01% +2 13F-HR Timeline RAFFA WEALTH MANAGEMENT, LLC More: the full row for RAFFA WEALTH MANAGEMENT, LLC 11 $8.75K <0.01% -1 13F-HR Timeline Bogart Wealth, LLC More: the full row for Bogart Wealth, LLC 11 $8.75K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline GoalVest Advisory LLC More: the full row for GoalVest Advisory LLC 11 $8.75K <0.01% -1 13F-HR Timeline SALEM INVESTMENT COUNSELORS INC More: the full row for SALEM INVESTMENT COUNSELORS INC 10 $7.96K <0.01% -4 13F-HR/A Timeline Archer Investment Corp More: the full row for Archer Investment Corp 10 $7.96K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline WOLFF WIESE MAGANA LLC More: the full row for WOLFF WIESE MAGANA LLC 10 $7.96K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Clearstead Trust, LLC More: the full row for Clearstead Trust, LLC 9 $7.16K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Physician Wealth Advisors, Inc. More: the full row for Physician Wealth Advisors, Inc. 9 $7.16K <0.01% +3 13F-HR Timeline Sachetta, LLC More: the full row for Sachetta, LLC 9 $7.16K <0.01% -3 13F-HR Timeline DAGCO, INC. More: the full row for DAGCO, INC. 9 $7.16K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Bare Financial Services, Inc More: the full row for Bare Financial Services, Inc 9 $7.16K <0.01% +8 13F-HR Timeline Aspect Partners, LLC More: the full row for Aspect Partners, LLC 8 $6.36K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Rossby Financial, LCC More: the full row for Rossby Financial, LCC 8 $6.36K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline North Capital, Inc. More: the full row for North Capital, Inc. 8 $6.36K 0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Valued Wealth Advisors LLC More: the full row for Valued Wealth Advisors LLC 7 $5.57K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline WealthTrak Capital Management LLC More: the full row for WealthTrak Capital Management LLC 7 $5.57K <0.01% +3 13F-HR Timeline Clean Yield Group More: the full row for Clean Yield Group 7 $5.57K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Wealth Preservation Advisors, LLC More: the full row for Wealth Preservation Advisors, LLC 7 $5.57K <0.01% -3 13F-HR Timeline True Wealth Design, LLC More: the full row for True Wealth Design, LLC 6 $4.85K <0.01% +3 13F-HR Timeline AMERIFLEX GROUP, INC. More: the full row for AMERIFLEX GROUP, INC. 6 $4.47K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Crewe Advisors LLC More: the full row for Crewe Advisors LLC 5 $3.98K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Avalon Trust Co More: the full row for Avalon Trust Co 5 $3.98K <0.01% -170 13F-HR Timeline Kilter Group LLC More: the full row for Kilter Group LLC 5 $3.98K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline TRUST CO OF TOLEDO NA /OH/ More: the full row for TRUST CO OF TOLEDO NA /OH/ 5 $3.98K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Concord Wealth Partners in group Concord Wealth Partners More: the full row for Concord Wealth Partners 5 $3.98K <0.01% -84 13F-HR Timeline Group FWL INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT, LLC More: the full row for FWL INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT, LLC 5 $3.98K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline IMG Wealth Management, Inc. More: the full row for IMG Wealth Management, Inc. 5 $3.98K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Principia Wealth Advisory, LLC More: the full row for Principia Wealth Advisory, LLC 5 $3.98K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Provenance Wealth Advisors, LLC More: the full row for Provenance Wealth Advisors, LLC 5 $3.98K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Medallion Wealth Advisors, LLC More: the full row for Medallion Wealth Advisors, LLC 5 $3.98K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Nova Wealth Management, Inc. More: the full row for Nova Wealth Management, Inc. 5 $3.61K <0.01% +4 13F-HR Timeline Winch Advisory Services, LLC More: the full row for Winch Advisory Services, LLC 4 $3.39K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Private Wealth Management Group, LLC More: the full row for Private Wealth Management Group, LLC 4 $3.34K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Creekmur Asset Management LLC More: the full row for Creekmur Asset Management LLC 4 $3.31K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Tortoise Investment Management, LLC More: the full row for Tortoise Investment Management, LLC 4 $3.18K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Jackson, Grant Investment Advisers, Inc. More: the full row for Jackson, Grant Investment Advisers, Inc. 4 $3.18K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline NVWM, LLC More: the full row for NVWM, LLC 4 $3.18K <0.01% +1 13F-HR Timeline TFC Financial Management, Inc. More: the full row for TFC Financial Management, Inc. 4 $3.18K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Iron Horse Wealth Management, LLC More: the full row for Iron Horse Wealth Management, LLC 4 $3.18K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Barnes Dennig Private Wealth Management… More: the full row for Barnes Dennig Private Wealth Management LLC 4 $3.18K <0.01% +2 13F-HR Timeline Clark Wealth Partners More: the full row for Clark Wealth Partners 4 $3.18K <0.01% -1 13F-HR Timeline ORG Partners LLC More: the full row for ORG Partners LLC 4 $3.18K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Plato Investment Management Ltd More: the full row for Plato Investment Management Ltd 4 $3.17K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline TOTAL INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT INC More: the full row for TOTAL INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT INC 3 $2.4K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline TCTC Holdings, LLC in group TCTC Holdings, LLC More: the full row for TCTC Holdings, LLC 3 $2.39K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Group Kessler Investment Group, LLC More: the full row for Kessler Investment Group, LLC 3 $2.39K <0.01% -9 13F-HR Timeline Sound Income Strategies, LLC More: the full row for Sound Income Strategies, LLC 3 $2.39K <0.01% +1 13F-HR Timeline Missouri Trust & Investment Co More: the full row for Missouri Trust & Investment Co 3 $2.39K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Quintet Private Bank (Europe) S.A. More: the full row for Quintet Private Bank (Europe) S.A. 3 $2.39K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Hughes Financial Services, LLC More: the full row for Hughes Financial Services, LLC 3 $2.32K <0.01% -2 13F-HR Timeline HIGHLINE WEALTH PARTNERS LLC More: the full row for HIGHLINE WEALTH PARTNERS LLC 2 $1.61K <0.01% -4 13F-HR Timeline Quaker Wealth Management, LLC More: the full row for Quaker Wealth Management, LLC 2 $1.59K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Core Alternative Capital More: the full row for Core Alternative Capital 2 $1.59K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Beaird Harris Wealth Management, LLC More: the full row for Beaird Harris Wealth Management, LLC 2 $1.59K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Stephens Consulting, LLC More: the full row for Stephens Consulting, LLC 2 $1.59K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Parkworth Wealth Management, Inc. More: the full row for Parkworth Wealth Management, Inc. 2 $1.59K <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Rialto Wealth Management, LLC More: the full row for Rialto Wealth Management, LLC 2 $1.59K <0.01% -1 13F-HR Timeline Bear Mountain Capital, Inc. More: the full row for Bear Mountain Capital, Inc. 2 $1.56K <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Hanson & Doremus Investment Management More: the full row for Hanson & Doremus Investment Management 1 $1K <0.01% -4 13F-HR Timeline Riggs Asset Managment Co. Inc. More: the full row for Riggs Asset Managment Co. Inc. 1 $796 <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline DecisionPoint Financial, LLC More: the full row for DecisionPoint Financial, LLC 1 $796 <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Cherry Tree Wealth Management, LLC More: the full row for Cherry Tree Wealth Management, LLC 1 $796 <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline CREATIVE FINANCIAL DESIGNS INC /ADV More: the full row for CREATIVE FINANCIAL DESIGNS INC /ADV 1 $795 <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Strengthening Families & Communities, L… More: the full row for Strengthening Families & Communities, LLC 1 $795 <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Signature Resources Capital Management,… More: the full row for Signature Resources Capital Management, LLC 1 $795 <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Cape Investment Advisory, Inc. More: the full row for Cape Investment Advisory, Inc. 1 $795 <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline LGT Financial Advisors LLC More: the full row for LGT Financial Advisors LLC 1 $795 <0.01% new 13F-HR Timeline Kiker Wealth Management, LLC More: the full row for Kiker Wealth Management, LLC 1 $795 <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Marshall & Sterling Wealth Advisors Inc. More: the full row for Marshall & Sterling Wealth Advisors Inc. 1 $795 <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Quest 10 Wealth Builders, Inc. More: the full row for Quest 10 Wealth Builders, Inc. 1 $422 <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Retirement Wealth Solutions LLC More: the full row for Retirement Wealth Solutions LLC 0 $358 <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Amount filed as zero, left out of ratios. Transamerica Financial Advisors, LLC in group Transamerica Financial Adviso… More: the full row for Transamerica Financial Advisors, LLC 1 $198 <0.01% 0 13F-HR Timeline Group CONCOURSE FINANCIAL GROUP SECURITIES, I… More: the full row for CONCOURSE FINANCIAL GROUP SECURITIES, INC. 0 $0 0 13F-HR Timeline Value filed as zero, left out of ratios. Amount filed as zero, left out of ratios. NFSG Corp More: the full row for NFSG Corp 0 $0 0% -223 13F-HR Timeline Value filed as zero, left out of ratios. Amount filed as zero, left out of ratios.