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GLENVIEW CAPITAL MANAGEMENT, LLC

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13F filer, CIK 1138995, NEW YORK, NY

GLENVIEW CAPITAL MANAGEMENT, LLC reported $4,492,312,861 across 54 holdings for the quarter ended 2025-09-30, in a 13F-HR filed 2025-11-14. Its ten largest share positions make up 64.11% of the portfolio.

Filed (acceptance time not in the bulk data set), ingested 13F-HR 0000905148-25-004016

Period
2025-09-30
Reported value
$4.49B
Holdings
54
Top 10 weight
64.11%
New
18
Sold out
7

Largest buys vs the previous quarter

SecurityShares changeApprox. value
TMOadded+182,941$88.7M
Znew+889,666$68.5M
GPNadded+825,000$68.5M
ICLRnew+371,418$65M
DHRadded+214,418$42.5M

Ranked by the share change valued at this quarter's implied price (value over shares in the 13F). A position sold out is valued at the previous quarter's price, its last report.

Largest sells vs the previous quarter

SecurityShares changeApprox. value
THCreduced-606,326-$123M
METAreduced-104,362-$76.6M
CIreduced-184,136-$53.1M
WDCexited-600,570-$38.4M
EXPEreduced-148,463-$31.7M

Ranked by the share change valued at this quarter's implied price (value over shares in the 13F). A position sold out is valued at the previous quarter's price, its last report.

Holdings, Q3 2025

Share positions as resolved from 13F-HR 0000905148-25-004016, largest first. % of portfolio is the value over $4,114,788,655, the sum of the share positions whose value is usable for ratios (method).

SecurityHistorySharesValue% of portfolioChangeLatest eventTimeline
CVSCVS HEALTH CORPQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 11,946,799 shares; 2024Q4: 11,946,799 shares; 2025Q1: 11,946,799 shares; 2025Q2: 8,196,799 shares; 2025Q3: 8,196,799 shares 8,196,799$618M15.02%0Timeline
THCTENET HEALTHCARE CORPQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 2,658,791 shares; 2024Q4: 2,837,085 shares; 2025Q1: 3,394,834 shares; 2025Q2: 2,930,005 shares; 2025Q3: 2,323,679 shares 2,323,679$472M11.47%-606,326Timeline
GPNGLOBAL PMTS INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 4,141,160 shares; 2024Q4: 3,926,152 shares; 2025Q1: 3,793,683 shares; 2025Q2: 4,316,892 shares; 2025Q3: 5,141,892 shares 5,141,892$427M10.38%+825,000Timeline
TEVATEVA PHARMACEUTICAL INDS LTDQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 8,456,324 shares; 2024Q4: 8,456,324 shares; 2025Q1: 14,778,641 shares; 2025Q2: 15,824,223 shares; 2025Q3: 16,692,680 shares 16,692,680$337M8.19%+868,457Timeline
GTMZOOMINFO TECHNOLOGIES INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 3,935,465 shares; 2024Q4: 9,986,800 shares; 2025Q1: 12,786,800 shares; 2025Q2: 16,381,399 shares; 2025Q3: 18,505,242 shares 18,505,242$202M4.91%+2,123,843Timeline
AMZNAMAZON COM INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 475,429 shares; 2024Q4: 333,325 shares; 2025Q1: 742,962 shares; 2025Q2: 562,874 shares; 2025Q3: 652,138 shares 652,138$143M3.48%+89,264Timeline
TMOTHERMO FISHER SCIENTIFIC INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: 100,000 shares; 2025Q3: 282,941 shares 282,941$137M3.34%+182,941Timeline
DXCDXC TECHNOLOGY COQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 11,174,163 shares; 2024Q4: 7,888,091 shares; 2025Q1: 6,959,119 shares; 2025Q2: 5,866,547 shares; 2025Q3: 8,339,897 shares 8,339,897$114M2.76%+2,473,350Timeline
UHSUNIVERSAL HLTH SVCS INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 733,260 shares; 2024Q4: 879,298 shares; 2025Q1: 887,370 shares; 2025Q2: 389,477 shares; 2025Q3: 482,169 shares 482,169$98.6M2.4%+92,692Timeline
PYPLPAYPAL HLDGS INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: 1,216,652 shares; 2025Q2: 1,006,144 shares; 2025Q3: 1,333,370 shares 1,333,370$89.4M2.17%+327,226Timeline
VTRSVIATRIS INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 7,571,906 shares; 2024Q4: 9,323,319 shares; 2025Q1: 8,492,943 shares; 2025Q2: 8,247,584 shares; 2025Q3: 8,247,584 shares 8,247,584$81.7M1.98%0Timeline
USFDUS FOODS HLDG CORPQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 1,813,427 shares; 2024Q4: 1,608,525 shares; 2025Q1: 1,785,729 shares; 2025Q2: 1,378,881 shares; 2025Q3: 1,065,329 shares 1,065,329$81.6M1.98%-313,552Timeline
DKSDICKS SPORTING GOODS INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: 290,532 shares; 2025Q3: 351,601 shares 351,601$78.1M1.9%+61,069Timeline
EXPEEXPEDIA GROUP INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 1,090,747 shares; 2024Q4: 878,580 shares; 2025Q1: 647,961 shares; 2025Q2: 508,256 shares; 2025Q3: 359,793 shares 359,793$76.9M1.87%-148,463Timeline
ZZILLOW GROUP INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: not reported; 2025Q3: 889,666 shares 889,666$68.5M1.67%newTimeline
ALITALIGHT INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 17,711,663 shares; 2024Q4: 31,911,033 shares; 2025Q1: 32,709,682 shares; 2025Q2: 24,382,328 shares; 2025Q3: 20,377,772 shares 20,377,772$66.4M1.61%-4,004,556Timeline
ICLRICON PUB LTD COQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: not reported; 2025Q3: 371,418 shares 371,418$65M1.58%newTimeline
MRVLMARVELL TECHNOLOGY INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 1,165,121 shares; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: 206,160 shares; 2025Q2: 407,012 shares; 2025Q3: 676,980 shares 676,980$56.9M1.38%+269,968Timeline
UALUNITED AIRLS HLDGS INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: 321,216 shares; 2025Q2: 568,862 shares; 2025Q3: 582,009 shares 582,009$56.2M1.36%+13,147Timeline
ESIELEMENT SOLUTIONS INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 4,507,369 shares; 2024Q4: 2,450,581 shares; 2025Q1: 2,531,937 shares; 2025Q2: 2,816,046 shares; 2025Q3: 2,207,167 shares 2,207,167$55.6M1.35%-608,879Timeline
SGRYSURGERY PARTNERS INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: 1,529,225 shares; 2025Q3: 2,546,735 shares 2,546,735$55.1M1.34%+1,017,5102026-10-06, 13G: 7,023,338 shares, 5.4% of the class, 13G filed 2026-10-13 Timeline
CITHE CIGNA GROUPQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 1,051,663 shares; 2024Q4: 632,408 shares; 2025Q1: 374,057 shares; 2025Q2: 371,893 shares; 2025Q3: 187,757 shares 187,757$54.1M1.32%-184,136Timeline
DHRDANAHER CORP DELQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: 50,000 shares; 2025Q3: 264,418 shares 264,418$52.4M1.27%+214,418Timeline
UBERUBER TECHNOLOGIES INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 1,046,816 shares; 2024Q4: 1,390,594 shares; 2025Q1: 440,193 shares; 2025Q2: 266,671 shares; 2025Q3: 471,801 shares 471,801$46.2M1.12%+205,130Timeline
MCKMCKESSON CORPQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 266,945 shares; 2024Q4: 151,618 shares; 2025Q1: 81,852 shares; 2025Q2: 25,584 shares; 2025Q3: 56,469 shares 56,469$43.6M1.06%+30,885Timeline
EYENATIONAL VISION HLDGS INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: 812,534 shares; 2025Q3: 1,378,226 shares 1,378,226$40.2M0.98%+565,692Timeline
ONTOONTO INNOVATION INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: not reported; 2025Q3: 270,605 shares 270,605$35M0.85%newTimeline
LIONLIONSGATE STUDIOS CORPQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: not reported; 2025Q3: 5,000,000 shares 5,000,000$34.5M0.84%newTimeline
KNXKNIGHT-SWIFT TRANSN HLDGS INQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 1,525,336 shares; 2024Q4: 1,204,054 shares; 2025Q1: 1,404,054 shares; 2025Q2: 1,169,876 shares; 2025Q3: 859,820 shares 859,820$34M0.83%-310,056Timeline
IQVIQVIA HLDGS INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: 100,000 shares; 2025Q3: 174,727 shares 174,727$33.2M0.81%+74,727Timeline
MYGNMYRIAD GENETICS INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 1,261,530 shares; 2024Q4: 4,157,324 shares; 2025Q1: 3,899,550 shares; 2025Q2: 4,587,407 shares; 2025Q3: 4,587,407 shares 4,587,407$33.2M0.81%0Timeline
PINSPINTEREST INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: 358,356 shares; 2025Q1: 1,063,523 shares; 2025Q2: not reported; 2025Q3: 807,700 shares 807,700$26M0.63%newTimeline
LADLITHIA MTRS INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: not reported; 2025Q3: 74,108 shares 74,108$23.4M0.57%newTimeline
BLCOBAUSCH PLUS LOMB CORPQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: 500,000 shares; 2025Q2: 1,553,855 shares; 2025Q3: 1,553,855 shares 1,553,855$23.4M0.57%0Timeline
XYZBLOCK INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: not reported; 2025Q3: 322,319 shares 322,319$23.3M0.57%newTimeline
EHCENCOMPASS HEALTH CORPQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: not reported; 2025Q3: 167,637 shares 167,637$21.3M0.52%newTimeline
MKSIMKS INC.Quarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: 232,296 shares; 2025Q3: 171,922 shares 171,922$21.3M0.52%-60,374Timeline
TECHBIO-TECHNE CORPQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: not reported; 2025Q3: 374,051 shares 374,051$20.8M0.51%newTimeline
BCBRUNSWICK CORPQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 284,786 shares; 2024Q4: 436,008 shares; 2025Q1: 731,638 shares; 2025Q2: 658,501 shares; 2025Q3: 312,921 shares 312,921$19.8M0.48%-345,580Timeline
BFLYBUTTERFLY NETWORK INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 9,955,144 shares; 2024Q4: 9,955,144 shares; 2025Q1: 9,955,144 shares; 2025Q2: 9,955,144 shares; 2025Q3: 9,955,144 shares 9,955,144$19.2M0.47%0Timeline
CLVTCLARIVATE PLCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 26,244,423 shares; 2024Q4: 18,567,923 shares; 2025Q1: 5,885,056 shares; 2025Q2: 4,758,136 shares; 2025Q3: 4,960,255 shares 4,960,255$19M0.46%+202,119Timeline
BAXBAXTER INTL INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: not reported; 2025Q3: 742,542 shares 742,542$16.9M0.41%newTimeline
RHRHQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: 65,922 shares; 2025Q3: 80,341 shares 80,341$16.3M0.4%+14,419Timeline
CNCCENTENE CORP DELQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: 1,287,341 shares; 2025Q1: 1,301,660 shares; 2025Q2: not reported; 2025Q3: 371,972 shares 371,972$13.3M0.32%newTimeline
SNPSSYNOPSYS INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: not reported; 2025Q3: 21,300 shares 21,300$10.5M0.26%newTimeline
BRKRBRUKER CORPQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: not reported; 2025Q3: 319,674 shares 319,674$10.4M0.25%newTimeline
DDDUPONT DE NEMOURS INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 275,491 shares; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: 33,325 shares; 2025Q2: not reported; 2025Q3: 128,480 shares 128,480$10M0.24%newTimeline
ILMNILLUMINA INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: not reported; 2025Q3: 101,720 shares 101,720$9.66M0.23%newTimeline
METAMETA PLATFORMS INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: 45,104 shares; 2025Q2: 115,934 shares; 2025Q3: 11,572 shares 11,572$8.5M0.21%-104,362Timeline
OSCROSCAR HEALTH INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: 798,981 shares; 2025Q2: not reported; 2025Q3: 408,221 shares 408,221$7.73M0.19%newTimeline
RTORENTOKIL INITIAL PLCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: not reported; 2024Q4: not reported; 2025Q1: not reported; 2025Q2: not reported; 2025Q3: 205,175 shares 205,175$5.18M0.13%newTimeline
DNAGINKGO BIOWORKS HOLDINGS INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 474,998 shares; 2024Q4: 187,501 shares; 2025Q1: 187,501 shares; 2025Q2: 149,379 shares; 2025Q3: 149,379 shares 149,379$2.18M0.05%0Timeline
BUTTERFLY NETWORK INCBUTTERFLY NETWORK INCQuarterly shares; oldest to newest; scale is this security's eight-quarter maximum; 2023Q4: restricted; 2024Q1: restricted; 2024Q2: restricted; 2024Q3: 1,713,333 shares; 2024Q4: 1,713,333 shares; 2025Q1: 1,713,333 shares; 2025Q2: 1,713,333 shares; 2025Q3: 1,713,333 shares 1,713,333$78.1K<0.01%0

Options

Puts and calls, as filed. The amount and value describe the underlying shares, not the option premium, so they stay out of % of portfolio (H5).

SecurityTypeAmountValueChange
SPYSTATE STR SPDR S&P 500 ETF T SHSput566,700$378Mnew

Sold out in Q3 2025

Positions in the previous quarter's report that this quarter's report no longer lists.

SecurityShares beforeValue beforeType
CARAVIS BUDGET GROUP INC270,000$45.6Mcall
WDCWESTERN DIGITAL CORP600,570$38.4Mshares
JBTMJBT MAREL CORPORATION241,387$29Mshares
WWAYFAIR INC527,892$27Mshares
COOCOOPER COS INC280,688$20Mshares
ONON SEMICONDUCTOR CORP174,191$9.13Mshares
SNDKSANDISK CORP26,030$1.18Mshares

How Q3 2025 was built

Available 13F filings of this filer for the quarter and their roles: the base report is the latest original or restatement, NEW HOLDINGS amendments filed after it are added (method).

FilingRoleAmendmentFiledAcceptedIngested
13F-HR 0000905148-25-004016 base2025-11-14acceptance time not in the bulk data set