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13F-HR filed by Relative Value Partners Group, LLC

Relative Value Partners Group, LLC filed this 13F-HR for the quarter ended 2022-12-31, filed 2023-02-13, with 258 holding rows worth $1,419,385,479.

Accession
0001649910-23-000007
Filed
2023-02-13
Accepted by EDGAR
acceptance time not in the bulk data set
Ingested
Source
SEC quarterly data set

Original filing

13F report for Q4 2022

A holdings report, 259 entries on the cover page, a total value of $1,419,385,479 stated on the cover page (in dollars after the unit check, H1), rows summing to $1,419,385,479 with VALUE read as dollars as filed, 13F file number 028-16978. The quarter's positions are built on this report. The resolved quarter.

The information table after summing rows of one CUSIP and put or call (H4), with the CUSIP and issuer name as filed. Values in dollars after the unit check (method).

Issuer as filedCUSIPClassAmountValueValue read asType
Vanguard Value ETF922908744SHS598,932$84,072,107dollars as filed
ISHARES TR464287101S&P 100 ETF443,596$75,664,249dollars as filed
VTI922908769COM319,697$62,347,363dollars as filed
Vanguard Intermediate-Term Treasury ETF92206C706SHS1,054,907$61,690,933dollars as filed
ISHARES TR4642874407-10 YR TRSY BD525,563$50,338,417dollars as filed
ISHARES TR CORE S&P 500 ETF464287200SHS119,934$46,079,795dollars as filed
INVESCO EXCHANGE TRADED FD T46137V613RAFI US 1000 ETF291,796$45,272,135dollars as filed
WISDOMTREE TR97717X669US QTLY DIV GRT741,129$44,734,570dollars as filed
iShares U.S. Treasury Bond ETF46429B267SHS1,886,077$42,851,676dollars as filed
iShares S&P 500 Value ETF464287408SHS261,719$37,967,643dollars as filed
SPDR SERIES TRUST78464A474ST SHOR CORP ETF1,241,440$36,473,508dollars as filed
Vanguard Short-Term Treasury ETF92206C102SHS550,677$31,840,159dollars as filed
SPECIAL OPPORTUNITIES FD INC84741T4012.75% CNV PFD C1,385,242$31,431,141dollars as filed
ISHARES 1-5 YEAR INVESTMENT GRADE CORPORATE BOND ETF464288646ETF453,209$22,578,851dollars as filed
Dimensional International Value ETF25434V807SHS728,261$22,139,140dollars as filed
VIRTUS DIVIDEND, INTEREST & PR92840R101COM1,818,367$20,511,178dollars as filed
SPECIAL OPPORTUNITIES FD INC84741T104COM1,764,253$20,112,488dollars as filed
Vanguard FTSE Developed Markets ETF921943858SHS453,659$19,040,086dollars as filed
Avantis US Small Cap Value ETF025072877SHS245,525$18,294,073dollars as filed
ISHARES RUSSELL 1000 VALUE ETF464287598ETF114,812$17,411,291dollars as filed
iShares Core MSCI EAFE ETF46432F842SHS277,610$17,111,869dollars as filed
SABA CAPITAL INCOME & OPRNT78518H202SHS NEW2,245,004$17,084,481dollars as filed
iShares Core S&P Small-Cap ETF464287804SHS177,190$16,769,308dollars as filed
BLACKROCK FLOATING RATE INCO09255X100COM1,391,619$15,669,625dollars as filed
IJH464287507COM63,918$15,461,123dollars as filed
Vanguard Small-Cap Value ETF922908611SHS95,589$15,179,569dollars as filed
CARLYLE CREDIT INCOME FUND92535C104SHS BEN INT1,721,666$14,995,707dollars as filed
Vanguard Short-Term Bond ETF921937827SHS179,910$13,543,657dollars as filed
BARINGS BDC INC06759L103COM1,462,188$11,916,833dollars as filed
TORTOISE PWR & ENERGY INFRASTR89147X104COM922,498$11,771,074dollars as filed
iShares Core MSCI Emerging Markets ETF46434G103SHS237,080$11,071,620dollars as filed
SPY78462F103SHS26,880$10,279,581dollars as filed
ISHARES46434VBG4EXCHANGE TRADED403,118$9,844,142dollars as filed
VGT92204A702SHS30,755$9,823,596dollars as filed
WISDOMTREE TR97717W588US LARGECAP FUND234,092$9,733,566dollars as filed
ISHARES TR464288414NATIONAL MUN ETF85,499$9,021,862dollars as filed
WISDOMTREE TR97717W281EMG MKTS SMCAP197,994$8,709,736dollars as filed
TRI CONTL CORP895436103COM338,232$8,668,881dollars as filed
GDL FD361570104COM SH BEN IT1,057,047$8,287,251dollars as filed
NUVEEN MORTGAGE AND INCOME F670735109COM503,980$8,154,396dollars as filed
VWO922042858SHS195,199$7,608,841dollars as filed
McDonalds Corporation580135101COM28,863$7,606,266dollars as filed
NUVEEN INTER DURATION MUN670677103INDX FD605,035$7,556,884dollars as filed
BLACKROCK CAP ALLOCATION TER09260U109COM497,819$6,904,745dollars as filed
LADDER CAP CORP CL A505743104REIT677,628$6,803,387dollars as filed
BLACKROCK ESG CAP ALLC TR09262F100SHS BEN INT490,085$6,581,844dollars as filed
NUVEEN REAL ASSET INCOME AND G67074Y105COM562,390$6,579,965dollars as filed
TEMPLETON EMERGING MARKETS FUN880191101COM574,084$6,556,038dollars as filed
iShares Core S&P Total U.S. Stock Market ETF464287150SHS75,935$6,439,264dollars as filed
WESTERN ASSET DIVERSIFIED IN95790K109COM SHS BEN INT490,434$6,228,509dollars as filed
Vanguard Intermediate-Term Corporate Bond ETF92206C870SHS78,895$6,115,125dollars as filed
PENNANTPARK INVESTMENT CORPORA708062104COM1,054,467$6,063,188dollars as filed
FOCUS FINANCIAL PARTNERS INC.34417P100COM CL A162,675$6,062,897dollars as filed
KINDER MORGAN INC DEL COM49456B101Stock315,417$5,702,736dollars as filed
SPDR SERIES TRUST78464A375ST INTER BD ETF176,916$5,631,227dollars as filed
CRESCENT CAP BDC INC225655109COM437,672$5,593,453dollars as filed
DIMENSIONAL ETF TRUST25434V849NATL MUN BD ETF115,543$5,524,122dollars as filed
iShares S&P Small-Cap 600 Value ETF464287879SHS59,786$5,459,031dollars as filed
GOLUB CAP BDC INC38173M102COM393,211$5,174,654dollars as filed
TCW CONV SECS FD INC872340104COM1,096,999$5,068,135dollars as filed
TPG RE FIN TR INC COM87266M107REIT721,039$4,895,852dollars as filed
iShares Short Treasury Bond ETF464288679SHS45,575$4,765,719dollars as filed
EQUITY COMMONWEALTH294628102COM SH BEN INT189,721$4,737,327dollars as filed
NUVEEN MUN VALUE FD INC670928100COM542,506$4,665,551dollars as filed
ISHARES TR46432F388MSCI USA VALUE50,838$4,633,345dollars as filed
BRIGHTSPIRE CAPITAL INC COM CL A10949T109REIT674,807$4,204,050dollars as filed
ISHARES TR464288521CRE U S REIT ETF82,029$4,056,343dollars as filed
Coca-Cola Company191216100COM61,795$3,930,780dollars as filed
GRANITE PT MTG TR INC38741L107COM STK719,152$3,854,657dollars as filed
BRT APARTMENTS CORP055645303REIT194,037$3,810,882dollars as filed
Microsoft Corp594918104COM15,816$3,793,007dollars as filed
MACQUARIE GLOBAL INFRASTRUCTUR55608D101COM163,884$3,723,446dollars as filed
ARES COML REAL ESTATE CORP04013V108COM356,413$3,667,489dollars as filed
GUGGENHEIM ACTIVE ALLOC FD40170T106COMMON STOCK266,283$3,581,510dollars as filed
iShares 0-3 Month Treasury Bond ETF46436E718SHS35,735$3,578,457dollars as filed
PROSHARES74347Y839EXCHANGE TRADED520,000$3,567,200dollars as filed
EASTERN BANKSHARES INC COM27627N105Stock206,000$3,553,500dollars as filed
ISHARES TR4642886613 7 YR TREAS BD30,576$3,512,861dollars as filed
ISHARES MSCI USA QUALITY FACTOR ETF46432F339ETF29,002$3,305,037dollars as filed
XYLEM INC COM98419M100Stock28,967$3,202,927dollars as filed
APOLLO GLOBAL MGMT INC COM03769M106Stock50,000$3,189,500dollars as filed
ISHARES RUSSELL 1000 ETF464287622ETF15,134$3,186,114dollars as filed
FIRST TR EXCHANGE-TRADED FD33738D101NO AMER ENERGY117,760$3,143,007dollars as filed
Abrdn Emerging Markets00301W105COM601,943$3,100,005dollars as filed
CHIPOTLEMEXICANGRILLI169656105STOK2,224$3,085,778dollars as filed
FIRST TR HIGH YIELD OPPRT 2033741Q107COM228,209$3,076,257dollars as filed
VANGUARD STAR FDS921909768COM58,964$3,049,609dollars as filed
SPDR S&P Midcap 400 ETF Trust78467Y107SHS6,701$2,967,191dollars as filed
PGIM SHORT DUR HIG YLD OPP F69355J104COM201,001$2,952,708dollars as filed
NERDWALLET INC CL A64082B102COMMON STOCK300,000$2,880,000dollars as filed
iShares Gold Trust464285204COM82,912$2,867,926dollars as filed
EATON VANCE MUNICIPAL BOND FUN27827X101COM271,053$2,816,240dollars as filed
Starbucks Corporation855244109COM27,548$2,732,776dollars as filed
NEUBERGER BERMAN MLP AND ENERG64129H104COM409,753$2,728,952dollars as filed
ProShares UltraPro Short S&P 50074347B110COM160,000$2,699,200dollars as filed
FIRST TRUST SENIOR FLOATING RA33733U108COM281,188$2,679,719dollars as filed
BLACKROCK INCOME TR09247F209Equity213,566$2,635,405dollars as filed
Apple Inc037833100COM19,998$2,598,387dollars as filed
MFS INTERMEDIATE INCOME TRUST55273C107SH BEN INT924,877$2,552,661dollars as filed
DIMENSIONAL ETF TRUST25434V815US SMALL CAP ETF99,356$2,461,046dollars as filed
SPDR SERIES TRUST78468R739ST NUVE TERM ETF51,561$2,422,317dollars as filed
VANGUARD SCOTTSDALE FDS92206C409COM32,171$2,418,916dollars as filed
ISHARES TR464287465MSCI EAFE ETF36,469$2,393,852dollars as filed
Citigroup Inc.172967424COM49,161$2,223,559dollars as filed
ISHARES TR46436E874IBONDS 24 TRM TS91,614$2,184,994dollars as filed
ISHARESRUSSELL1000GROWTHETF464287614STOK9,716$2,081,556dollars as filed
DIMENSIONAL ETF TRUST25434V872CORE FIXE IN ETF48,435$2,011,016dollars as filed
ISHARES TR46432F834COM34,119$1,974,833dollars as filed
PIMCO ETF TR72201R2051-5 US TIP IDX39,491$1,969,419dollars as filed
INVESCO EXCH TRADED FD TR II46138E727RAFI EMRGNG MRKT107,720$1,898,028dollars as filed
GLOBAL X FDS37954Y483NASDAQ 100 COVER117,560$1,870,373dollars as filed
iShares MSCI Japan ETF46434G822SHS34,007$1,851,322dollars as filed
PRINCIPAL REAL ESTATE INCOME74255X104SHS BEN INT176,235$1,824,028dollars as filed
AbbVie,Inc.00287Y109COM10,901$1,761,739dollars as filed
EXXON MOBIL CORP30231G102COM15,615$1,722,388dollars as filed
Vanguard FTSE All-World ex-US ETF922042775SHS33,520$1,680,707dollars as filed
NUVEEN MULTI-MKT INCOME FD67075J107COM283,833$1,666,100dollars as filed
NORTHEAST CMNTY BANCORP INC664121100COM111,100$1,657,612dollars as filed
Chevron Corporation166764100COM9,037$1,622,051dollars as filed
ISHARES TR464288513IBOXX HI YD ETF21,636$1,593,056dollars as filed
Philip Morris International Inc.718172109COM15,247$1,543,104dollars as filed
JAPAN SMALLER CAPITALIZATION47109U104COM226,273$1,466,250dollars as filed
ABRDN TOTAL DYNAMIC DIVIDEND00326L100COM SH BEN INT185,971$1,450,572dollars as filed
VANGUARD MALVERN FDS922020805SHS30,965$1,446,365dollars as filed
SPDR S&P Dividend ETF78464A763SHS11,502$1,439,015dollars as filed
STANDEX INTL CORP854231107COM13,751$1,408,240dollars as filed
Vanguard Mid-Cap ETF922908629SHS6,901$1,406,449dollars as filed
Vanguard Total World Stock ETF922042742SHS16,030$1,381,600dollars as filed
BLACKROCK GLOBAL FLOATING RATE091941104COM125,420$1,372,096dollars as filed
VANGUARD SCOTTSDALE FDS92206C730COM7,707$1,343,022dollars as filed
Vanguard Extended Market ETF922908652SHS10,012$1,330,194dollars as filed
WISDOMTREE TR97717W570US MIDCAP FUND27,176$1,321,285dollars as filed
ISHARES CMBS ETF46429B366CMBS ETF28,204$1,294,862dollars as filed
INVESCO EXCH TRADED FD TR II46138E743RAFI DVLPD MRKTS30,140$1,252,031dollars as filed
NUVEEN CORPORATE INCOME 202367079F101COM134,206$1,217,584dollars as filed
FIRST TRUST INTERMEDIATE DURATION PREFERRED & INCOME FUND33718W103CEF69,505$1,172,549dollars as filed
Berkshire Hathaway Inc084670702COM3,685$1,138,297dollars as filed
DOUBLELINE YIELD OPPORTUNITI25862D105COM86,245$1,131,530dollars as filed
MFS MULTIMARKET INCOME TR552737108SH BEN INT246,461$1,111,539dollars as filed
LOEWS CORP COM540424108Stock18,943$1,104,945dollars as filed
VANECK ETF TRUST92189F106GOLD MINERS ETF38,609$1,104,525dollars as filed
Abbott Laboratories002824100COM10,013$1,099,300dollars as filed
iShares MSCI ACWI Low Carbon Target ETF46434V464SHS7,766$1,072,770dollars as filed
S&P Global,Inc.78409V104COM3,108$1,040,994dollars as filed
JPMorgan Chase & Co46625H100COM7,736$1,037,398dollars as filed
Merck & Co.,Inc.58933Y105COM8,857$982,684dollars as filed
PIMCO ENRGY TACTICAL CR OPP FD69346N107COM SHS BEN INT65,134$973,100dollars as filed
Vanguard Small-Cap ETF922908751SHS5,284$969,815dollars as filed
COHEN & STEERS TAX ADVAN PFD19249X108COM54,796$968,246dollars as filed
Vanguard Real Estate922908553SHS11,711$965,904dollars as filed
Dimensional US Small Cap ETF25434V500COM18,534$948,033dollars as filed
Bank of America Corp060505104COM28,596$947,089dollars as filed
INVESCO EXCHANGE TRADED FD T46137V258S&P500 PUR VAL11,780$918,626dollars as filed
ISHARES TR464289867CORE 60 BALA ETF18,872$890,005dollars as filed
Vanguard Ultra-Short Bond ETF92203C303SHS18,017$882,833dollars as filed
VANGUARD TAX-EXEMPT BOND ETF922907746ETF17,740$877,944dollars as filed
VOYA GLBL EQTY DIV & PREM OP92912T100COM159,138$860,935dollars as filed
BLACKSTONE MORTGAGE TRUST INC COM CL A09257W100REIT40,582$859,121dollars as filed
ISHARES TR464288257MSCI ACWI ETF10,090$856,408dollars as filed
JBT MAREL CORPORATION477839104COM9,369$855,651dollars as filed
FIRST TR EXCH TRADED FD III33739E108PFD SECS INC ETF50,664$851,153dollars as filed
WILLIAMS COS INC COM969457100Stock25,149$827,397dollars as filed
Johnson & Johnson478160104COM4,561$805,749dollars as filed
Automatic Data Processing,Inc.053015103COM3,347$799,464dollars as filed
International Business Machines Corporation459200101COM5,641$794,746dollars as filed
Pfizer Inc.717081103COM14,944$765,721dollars as filed
FIRST TR DYNAMIC EUROPE EQUI33740D107COM SHS65,459$738,380dollars as filed
SPDR INDEX SHS FDS78463X541ST STR NAT ETF12,639$720,668dollars as filed
Utilities Select Sector SPDR Fund81369Y886SHS10,150$715,575dollars as filed
SCHWAB STRATEGIC TR808524771FUNDAMENTAL US L13,269$709,080dollars as filed
KKR REAL ESTATE FIN TR INC48251K100COM50,104$699,452dollars as filed
ARES CAPITAL CORP04010L103COM37,612$694,694dollars as filed
ISHARES TR46429B663CORE HIGH DV ETF6,636$691,737dollars as filed
PAYCHEX INC704326107COM5,653$653,287dollars as filed
Eli Lilly and Company532457108COM1,774$649,000dollars as filed
iShares MSCI ACWI ex U.S. ETF464288240SHS14,260$648,810dollars as filed
Alphabet Inc. Reg. Shares C02079K107COM66,875$644,138dollars as filed
APOLLO UNVT CORP03761U502COM NEW56,166$640,292dollars as filed
Amazon.com, Inc023135106COM7,508$630,672dollars as filed
FMC CORP COM NEW302491303Stock4,903$611,871dollars as filed
Intel Corp458140100COM22,785$601,676dollars as filed
TENNECO INC880349105COM4,750$585,105dollars as filed
SPDR Portfolio Emerging Markets ETF78463X509SHS17,026$561,177dollars as filed
VANGUARD HEALTH CARE ETF92204A504ETF2,186$542,183dollars as filed
GENERAL MTRS CO COM37045V100Stock15,860$533,530dollars as filed
ISHARES TR464287234MSCI EMG MKT ETF13,909$527,133dollars as filed
ISHARES TR46436E866IBONDS 25 TRM TS22,358$520,494dollars as filed
Walmart Inc.931142103COM3,668$520,086dollars as filed
UNUM GROUP COM91529Y106Stock12,550$514,927dollars as filed
SPDR GOLD TR78463V107GOLD SHS2,879$488,466dollars as filed
ISHARES TR46435G516COM7,305$480,206dollars as filed
DIMENSIONAL ETF TRUST25434V302EMGR CRE EQT MNG21,859$479,802dollars as filed
iShares Core Dividend Growth ETF46434V621SHS9,479$473,969dollars as filed
Cisco Systems,Inc.17275R102COM9,727$463,401dollars as filed
BARCLAYS BANK PLC06742C723IPATH SELCT MLP24,629$462,014dollars as filed
VANGUARDRUSSELL2000ETF92206C664STOK6,534$459,798dollars as filed
JANUS DETROIT STR TR47103U845HENDRSON AAA CL9,229$454,621dollars as filed
WISDOMTREE TR97717W422INDIA ERNGS FD13,890$452,675dollars as filed
Home Depot, Inc437076102COM1,421$448,837dollars as filed
EATON VANCE ENHANCED EQUITY278274105COM29,890$446,258dollars as filed
HARTFORD INSURANCE GROUP INC COM416515104Stock5,850$443,606dollars as filed
Union Pacific Corporation907818108COM2,110$436,918dollars as filed
AFFILIATED MANAGERS GROUP COM008252108Stock2,540$402,412dollars as filed
PIMCO ETF TR72201R718ENHNCD LW DUR AC4,260$401,548dollars as filed
NSTS BANCORP INC6293JP109COM39,500$400,135dollars as filed
PUTNAM MUNICIPAL OPPORTUNITIES746922103SH BEN INT36,000$390,600dollars as filed
PHILLIPS 66 COM718546104Stock3,747$389,988dollars as filed
LINCOLN NATL CORP IND COM534187109Stock12,410$381,235dollars as filed
Procter & Gamble Co742718109COM2,498$378,597dollars as filed
BLACKSTONE SENIOR FLOATING RAT09256U105COM30,365$377,443dollars as filed
SSGA ACTIVE ETF TR78467V400STATE STREET GLO9,749$366,182dollars as filed
PIMCO ETF TR72201R775ACTIVE BD ETF4,034$364,996dollars as filed
ConocoPhillips20825C104COM3,039$358,602dollars as filed
Danaher Corporation235851102COM1,312$348,103dollars as filed
iShares Russell 2000 ETF464287655SHS1,995$347,848dollars as filed
Southern Company842587107COM4,865$347,410dollars as filed
Vanguard Utilities ETF92204A876SHS2,265$347,360dollars as filed
NUVEEN N Y SELECT TAX FREE I67063V104SH BEN INT28,733$333,015dollars as filed
OAKTREE SPECIALTY LENDING CORP67401P108COM47,183$324,147dollars as filed
iShares Russell Midcap ETF464287499SHS4,717$318,174dollars as filed
Schwab U.S. Broad Market ETF808524102SHS6,832$306,159dollars as filed
BLACKSTONE INC09260D107COM4,052$300,618dollars as filed
SOUTHSIDE BANCSHARES INC84470P109COMMON STOCK8,250$296,918dollars as filed
BLUE FOUNDRY BANCORP09549B104COM22,900$294,265dollars as filed
ELLSWORTH GROWTH AND INCOME FU289074106COM34,443$274,855dollars as filed
INDEPENDENT BANK GROUP INC45384B106COM4,428$266,052dollars as filed
FLAHERTY & CRUMRINE TOTAL RE338479108COM16,824$265,651dollars as filed
ISHARES TR464288448INTL SEL DIV ETF9,675$262,768dollars as filed
NUVEEN QUALITY MUNCP INCOME67066V101COM21,841$257,729dollars as filed
LINDE PLCG5494J103SHS767$250,180dollars as filed
META PLATFORMS INC CL A30303M102COM2,074$249,585dollars as filed
MARATHON PETE CORP COM56585A102Stock2,102$244,652dollars as filed
WINTRUST FINL CORP COM97650W108Stock2,878$243,249dollars as filed
VANECK ETF TRUST92189H607OIL SERVICES ETF800$243,240dollars as filed
RAYONIER INC COM754907103REIT7,320$241,267dollars as filed
ISHARES46434VAX8EXCHANGE TRADED9,390$235,032dollars as filed
NUVEEN CR STRATEGIES INCOME67073D102COM SHS46,130$234,800dollars as filed
Vanguard Dividend Appreciation ETF921908844SHS1,487$225,825dollars as filed
DTF TAX-FREE INCOME 2028 TER23334J107COM19,550$213,291dollars as filed
ISHARES TR46434V456MSCI INTL QUALTY6,539$211,808dollars as filed
MOTOROLA SOLUTIONS INC COM NEW620076307Stock820$211,322dollars as filed
CORTEVA INC COM22052L104Stock3,444$202,438dollars as filed
PIMCO ETF TR72201R627SR LN ACTIVE ETF4,101$200,047dollars as filed
MERIDIAN BIOSCIENCE INC589584101COMMON STOCK6,010$199,592dollars as filed
BLACKROCK CREDIT ALLOCATION IN092508100COM19,327$195,201dollars as filed
ABERDEEN GLOBAL DYNAMIC DIVIDE00302M106COM19,439$183,897dollars as filed
NEW GERMANY FD INC644465106COM22,620$178,470dollars as filed
EUROPEAN EQUITY FD INC COM298768102CEF22,195$166,460dollars as filed
VIATRIS INC COM92556V106Stock14,266$158,778dollars as filed
ABRDN JAPAN EQUITY FUND INC00306J109COM27,697$146,239dollars as filed
LIBERTY ALL-STAR EQUITY FUND530158104SH BEN INT25,610$145,977dollars as filed
ROYCE GLOBAL TRUST INC78081T104COM14,689$127,064dollars as filed
PENNANTPARK FLOATING RATE CA70806A106COM10,806$118,650dollars as filed
EATON VANCE TAX-MANAGED DIVE27828N102COM10,000$108,600dollars as filed
ABSOLUTE SOFTWARE CORP00386B109COM10,244$106,944dollars as filed
GENWORTH FINL INC37247D106COM SHS12,000$63,480dollars as filed
AEGON N V007924103NY REGISTRY SHS11,000$55,440dollars as filed
SEELOS THERAPEUTICS INC81577F109COM15,000$10,185dollars as filed

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